Rahlfs or Rahlfs-Hanhart

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crkottke
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Rahlfs or Rahlfs-Hanhart

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Does anyone know if the "Septuagint Old Testament with accents" (LXXA) on the official Bible module page is the Rahlfs (editio minor) or the Rahlfs-Hanhart (editio altera) Septuagint?

Apparently the differences are minor, with the newer Rahlfs-Hanhart having about 1,000 small corrections to the older Rahlfs, but those minor differences make the new one copyrighted while the older one is public domain.

Also, if the LXXA is the older Rahlfs, does anyone know if it originated from the Thesaurus Linguae Graecae (TLG) project? I've read that most of the electronic versions of the Rahlf's that are floating around can be traced back to there, and they have one of those friendly sounding copyrights: http://www.tlg.uci.edu/copyright/index.php

I'm not trying to be picky, but I'm getting ready to start on a project that will use large portions of the Septuagint and I want to make sure that I am indeed using a public domain version.
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Re: Rahlfs or Rahlfs-Hanhart

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So I've arrived at the conclusion that while both Swete's and Rahlfs' Septuagints are public domain, there is no electronic copy of either of them that is truly public domain.

Most, if not all of the electronic copies trace back to either the Thesaurus Linguae Graecae (TLG) project (mentioned in my first post), or the Center for Computer Analysis of Texts (CCAT) at the University of Pennsylvania http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/rak/catss.html, which also has restricted terms of use http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/gopher/text/r ... readme.txt

There is a discussion about electronic Septuagints here: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/lxx ... opics/2981 In this discussion one of the posters mentions the Orthodox LXX text, which is published by: "Apostoliki Diakonia with is the publishing and evangilation arm of the Greek Orthodox Church of Greece." He explains that "The LXX text used by the Church of Greece is Alfred Rahlf's Septuaginta text made to conform as much as possible to traditional Orthodox renderings of the LXX as found in the writings of the Fathers and the Lucianic LXX text tradition."

Basically it is a slightly modified Rahlf's Septuagint, which several spot checks I did seemed to confirm. An electronic version of the Orthodox LXX text is here: http://www.apostoliki-diakonia.gr/bible ... ain=OldTes

I couldn't figure out if this electronic copy is public domain or not (I used Google Translate at the site, but there doesn't seem to be any terms of use). Does anyone know whether or not this electronic copy of the Septuagint is public domain, and if it is public domain, where it is documented?

Any help is much appreciated!
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Re: Rahlfs or Rahlfs-Hanhart

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crkottke wrote: Basically it is a slightly modified Rahlf's Septuagint, which several spot checks I did seemed to confirm. An electronic version of the Orthodox LXX text is here: http://www.apostoliki-diakonia.gr/bible ... ain=OldTes

I couldn't figure out if this electronic copy is public domain or not (I used Google Translate at the site, but there doesn't seem to be any terms of use). Does anyone know whether or not this electronic copy of the Septuagint is public domain, and if it is public domain, where it is documented?

Any help is much appreciated!
There is no copyright info there. I assume that it is in the PD since the text is very old (as i suppose every other LXX text is, unless it contains newer edits, which edits *may* be copyrighted if they amount to a significant amount of work added)
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