Module Idea - A GUI Parsing Search Tool
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Thanks Darrel I have emailed you.
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Here is a module based off RMAC
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Re: Module Idea - A GUI Parsing Search Tool
I am a bit frustrated. I have the set of modules that walks me down to the exact morphology I might be interested in, but I am not seeing how to pair that with a lemma.
For example in Acts 17:28 in the TRi, I right-click on κινούμεθα and select to find the lemma (which produces a search of "m/κινέω@*") and returns 8 verses. But say I only want those lemmas with any Verb Present morphology (which requres this string "m/κινέω@V-P*") which returns 4 verses.
My set of modules I can walk it down to the morph string, but I cannot connect it to the lemma "κινέω". Now if I knew Greek better I might be able to, but the whole reason I want this type of search tool is because I don't know Greek. I know what I want but not how to conveniently get there!
Am I missing something or is there any help I can get? Thanks for listening!
Darrel
For example in Acts 17:28 in the TRi, I right-click on κινούμεθα and select to find the lemma (which produces a search of "m/κινέω@*") and returns 8 verses. But say I only want those lemmas with any Verb Present morphology (which requres this string "m/κινέω@V-P*") which returns 4 verses.
My set of modules I can walk it down to the morph string, but I cannot connect it to the lemma "κινέω". Now if I knew Greek better I might be able to, but the whole reason I want this type of search tool is because I don't know Greek. I know what I want but not how to conveniently get there!
Am I missing something or is there any help I can get? Thanks for listening!
Darrel
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I was thinking through this:
It would require a dictionary that has all the lemmas and the morphology
Potentially it could be combined with each lemma and morphology but it could be extremely large!
A way to make it smaller would to have while coding it test for all variables and then remove the variables that don't exist.
If on the other hand one had a dictionary that had the lemmas with this for example:
Lemma: λογος
m/λογος@
This the morphology was separate:
Morphological search: m/N-N*
Lemma ready: N-N*
What you would have to do is copy the lemma code
and then the lemma ready morphology code into the search window:
m/λογος@N-N*
There may be a simpler way but not sure.
It would require a dictionary that has all the lemmas and the morphology
Potentially it could be combined with each lemma and morphology but it could be extremely large!
A way to make it smaller would to have while coding it test for all variables and then remove the variables that don't exist.
If on the other hand one had a dictionary that had the lemmas with this for example:
Lemma: λογος
m/λογος@
This the morphology was separate:
Morphological search: m/N-N*
Lemma ready: N-N*
What you would have to do is copy the lemma code
and then the lemma ready morphology code into the search window:
m/λογος@N-N*
There may be a simpler way but not sure.
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RubioTerra - do you think this is something that would be hard to generate? I know you've done a lot with lemmas and morphology.
Mattethes what do you think any ideas?
Mattethes what do you think any ideas?
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Re: Module Idea - A GUI Parsing Search Tool
I have been working on just this. I have a module with over 10,000 lemmas, and I am adding to each entry "m/lemma@N-*" with each entry changing to match whether it is a noun, verb, etc.
It's a bit slow generating it, but the end result I will have this module and the set of book modules allowing me to search based on a specific morphology or a lemma and morphology.
Darrel
It's a bit slow generating it, but the end result I will have this module and the set of book modules allowing me to search based on a specific morphology or a lemma and morphology.
Darrel
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Is it possible to just have this in one module? Instead of multiples?
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Re: Module Idea - A GUI Parsing Search Tool
What part are you referring to?
The lemma and morph is one module. The set of modules that allows me to walk down to a specific morphology is a bunch of modules.
Darrel
The lemma and morph is one module. The set of modules that allows me to walk down to a specific morphology is a bunch of modules.
Darrel
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Ah ok, but if you put it in book format then you can do sub topics - so then you shouldn't need multiple dictionaries - it should still be usable by a BIble with strongs, lemmas, morphology.
Maybe I'm not understanding the why of multiple modules.
Maybe I'm not understanding the why of multiple modules.
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Well,the lemma and morph data is one dictionary. When you click on a lemma in the Bible it pops up in the dictionary, you double-click on the lemma/morph entry, search the Bible and it returns all the hits.
The current morphology search set of linked book modules was the best way I could see to do it when I created that set. Maybe I will need to revisit it and see if there is another way I can do it and still have it look good. Thanks!
Darrel
The current morphology search set of linked book modules was the best way I could see to do it when I created that set. Maybe I will need to revisit it and see if there is another way I can do it and still have it look good. Thanks!
Darrel
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Might check this out: http://www.wordmodules.com/the-word-mod ... ph-search/
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Re: Module Idea - A GUI Parsing Search Tool
Thanks Jonathan, I am playing with it now. It looks good!
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Hey Jonathan,
Which LXX Bible works with this tool? I can return results in (for example) TRi, but cannot return results in any of my LXX Bibles. I must be doing something wrong.
Darrel
Which LXX Bible works with this tool? I can return results in (for example) TRi, but cannot return results in any of my LXX Bibles. I must be doing something wrong.
Darrel
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Re: Module Idea - A GUI Parsing Search Tool
Minor point: Should the description perhaps be updated? It specifically says it's for versions 3.x to 4.x.
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Re: Module Idea - A GUI Parsing Search Tool
Try this (ALXX): http://forum.theword.net/download/file.php?id=2415DarrelW wrote:Hey Jonathan,
Which LXX Bible works with this tool? I can return results in (for example) TRi, but cannot return results in any of my LXX Bibles. I must be doing something wrong.
Darrel
the LXXM is coded differently.
Edmund