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rdwray
Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:06 pm Posts: 512
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 Bible View search not returning search when typed
I typed "Jacob’s trouble" into Bible View Search and it returned nothing. I went to Jeremiah 30:7 and copied the same text and search found it. I again typed and it was not found; what is going on?
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Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:15 pm |
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JG
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:34 pm Posts: 4143
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 Re: Bible View search not returning search when typed
It is the type of apostrophe that different publishers use that causes the issue some use the one that is not on the keyboard ’ the right single quote \u2019, and others use the ' apostrophe , still others might use the ` grave accent.
Additional note If you want to see and use the apostrophe that is possibly used in the Bible, take a look at theWord's Virtual Keyboard in the search view.
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Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:38 pm |
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rdwray
Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:06 pm Posts: 512
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 Re: Bible View search not returning search when typed
Thanks JG, I should have known that. God bless...
_________________ Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. “For My yoke [is] easy and My burden is light.”
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Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:56 pm |
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JG
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:34 pm Posts: 4143
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 Re: Bible View search not returning search when typed
You are welcome. I have asked Costas if there is any fix for this. It has tripped me up in the past. It is even more annoying when searching Greek where there are accents.
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Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:02 pm |
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rdwray
Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:06 pm Posts: 512
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 Re: Bible View search not returning search when typed
The only thing I can think of is that he could change all text to UTF-8, or something, through a filter when it is searched, but then I don't know if he can handle both English and Greek with the same encoding or can he detect what language is being used. There is never an end to issues with programming, I had an Excel spreadsheet with a bunch of VBA and after using it for a few years, I ran into a problem, but got it fixed until the next time. 
_________________ Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. “For My yoke [is] easy and My burden is light.”
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Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:08 pm |
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JG
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:34 pm Posts: 4143
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 Re: Bible View search not returning search when typed
beta build 1513 will now ignore the apostrophe style if you have the setting to "Ignore case and diacritics" checked.
1513: Search enhancement: when searching ignoring diacritics, the following characters are all considered equivalent: - quotation mark u+0022 - apostrophe u+0027 - grave accent u+0060 - acute accent u+00b4 - left single quotation mark u+2018 - right single quotation mark u+2019 - left double quotation mark u+201c - right double quotation mark u+201d
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Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:44 pm |
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rdwray
Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:06 pm Posts: 512
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 Re: Bible View search not returning search when typed
Thanks Jon, sounds great. God bless...
Edit: Just tested it and it works, thanks again to you and Costas.
_________________ Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. “For My yoke [is] easy and My burden is light.”
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Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:06 pm |
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JG
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:34 pm Posts: 4143
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 Re: Bible View search not returning search when typed
1514: additions to 1513: - fixed the tip of the 'Ignore case' checkbox in Bible search - book search broke if there was an apostrophe; now it is fixed. Note that book search will not support this apostrophe neutrality
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Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:13 pm |
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rdwray
Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:06 pm Posts: 512
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 Re: Bible View search not returning search when typed
Ran into a second issue in that the word "castaway" is not found in KJV 1Corinthains 9:27 where the word is typed or copied in 1514. Have a request in that the version number be added to Help>About dialog.
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:09 pm |
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JG
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:34 pm Posts: 4143
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 Re: Bible View search not returning search when typed
Works for me in KJV. Have you set a custom search range?
Also the version of the program is in the About bottom right already. Usually for beta testing we leave the filename as is and because of the amount of full stops the filename contains it will display in the title of the program.
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:27 pm |
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rdwray
Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:06 pm Posts: 512
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 Re: Bible View search not returning search when typed
My search range is set to "Entire Bible". I do see the version in the splash screen; here is my about: Attachment:
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:45 pm |
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JG
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:34 pm Posts: 4143
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 Re: Bible View search not returning search when typed
If you perform a search of the word 'castaway' from the Bible view at that verse do you get a result. If so then you need to check what Bible you are searching. Not sure why the version is not showing in the About, for you. Could it be you have a different dpi setting? I will have to check on another installation to see if that makes a difference. Perhaps a reboot would help? Attachment:
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:10 pm |
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rdwray
Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:06 pm Posts: 512
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 Re: Bible View search not returning search when typed
Is someone working on the website, extremely slow and can't login at times?
I am running 20H2 on this machine and I have a 1904 running 1486 and it found the word and the version number is in the bottom right corner of About. I will do some more checking and get back in a few hours, have errands to run.
_________________ Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. “For My yoke [is] easy and My burden is light.”
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:40 pm |
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rdwray
Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:06 pm Posts: 512
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 Re: Bible View search not returning search when typed
Did a quick check by coping the 1486 over to the 20H2 and the search did not work so it may well be the Windows version, but I am still going to do some further checking.
_________________ Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. “For My yoke [is] easy and My burden is light.”
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:46 pm |
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JG
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:34 pm Posts: 4143
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 Re: Bible View search not returning search when typed
This is using Edition Windows 10 Home Version 20H2 Installed on 29/05/2020 OS build 19042.685 Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.551.0
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