I do not think they serve any other purpose apart from indicating T/V/M.csterg wrote:RubioTerra wrote:Well, about the extra "Strong's" numbers: the evidence JG showed indeed seems to indicate that they represent tense/voice/mood. On the other hand, as Costas stated, why one anyone need to add those to a module that already have full morphology parsing? Additionally, they occur scarcely throughout the text, suggesting they may serve another purpose.
These appear to have been included by Robinson for use with software that utilised dictionaries such as the Englishman Strong's Dictionary (which from memory, includes Strong's numbers for TVM definitions)(eg Online Bible). I haven't used this in years, but I do have a copy of the "BestLex" module someone converted for TW, that includes extra Strong's numbers for T/V/M.
In verbs that I have checked, the extra Strong's number given matches with the TVM defined in "BestLex" and these correlate precisely with the morphological tag in the Byz2005 module for verb parsing. So there are two ways given in Robinison's Byz2005 original txt file for TVM to be shown. I think this is just so it remains compatible with those dictionaries that use Strong's numbers for TVM within the same Strong's dictionary. As theWord relies on the RMAC module to define the morphological codes and Byz2005 includes full morph codes, there is no need for the extra Strong's number.
I agree with removing TVM codes (the extra Strong's numbers).csterg wrote:To Conclude: I think that if the TVM codes are removed, the new Byz2005 can go in the official channel. All agree?
In the example Robinson gives, G4055 does not occur in the TR anyway, which Strong's based his numbers on. So I wouldn't be concerned for this for now. The printed edition of Strong's dictionary lists "ekperissou" but gives no definition or number, it just says "see 1537 and 4053".csterg wrote:2. Strong coding is not perfect (as with everything). This will continue to be like that. I don't have a proposal for fixing these recycled indexes,
Paul.