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At Ps 50:13 in BSB, the word "flesh" is tagged as Strongs H1319. But when I hover over the text the popup (in BTSK) says it is H1320 which makes more sense.

"Do I eat the flesh of bulls, or drink the blood of goats?"
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Is that an official module? What is the id and filename?
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Is this the Berean Study Bible?
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JG wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:11 pm Is that an official module? What is the id and filename?
Now that you mention, it is probably not the official version. Jonathan sent me a tweaked copy via e-mail. So support may not apply here?

the info dialog says:
filename: Berean Study Bible.ont
ID : BSBBasic
v 1.6
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Greetings Kenfhill,
Perhaps check if the offical version is correct. If not we may need to contact the publisher.
If it is and yours is not hmms depends I don't remember what we did.
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jonathangkoehn wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:37 am Greetings Kenfhill,
Perhaps check if the offical version is correct. If not we may need to contact the publisher.
If it is and yours is not hmms depends I don't remember what we did.
I checked the BSB reverse interlinear and the BSB Hebrew interlinear. They both open lexicons to H1319, which does not seem right.

On further checking, however, in any of my BSB modules above, clicking the word for "flesh" opens to H1320 in BTSKt, but H1319 in M-Strong + most other resources I have.

Might that mean M-Strong is messed up somehow? I just downloaded M-Strong again and it is still behaving the same.

The Hebrew word seems to be pretty close in both H1319 and H1320 per BTSKt. (1319 is a verb ; 1320 is a noun - @ Ps 50.13 it should be a noun.)

1319 : Original: בּשׂר - Transliteration: Basar - Phonetic: baw-sar'
1320 : Original: בּשׂר - Transliteration: Basar - Phonetic: baw-sawr'
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@Jonathan
It looks like the vowel pointing is being ignored, and so matches the first instance in the index?
Isn't word click set to Fuzzy match, and cannot be changed by user?
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kenfhill84083 wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:45 pm
jonathangkoehn wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:37 am Greetings Kenfhill,
Perhaps check if the offical version is correct. If not we may need to contact the publisher.
If it is and yours is not hmms depends I don't remember what we did.
I checked the BSB reverse interlinear and the BSB Hebrew interlinear. They both open lexicons to H1319, which does not seem right.

On further checking, however, in any of my BSB modules above, clicking the word for "flesh" opens to H1320 in BTSKt, but H1319 in M-Strong + most other resources I have.

Might that mean M-Strong is messed up somehow? I just downloaded M-Strong again and it is still behaving the same.

The Hebrew word seems to be pretty close in both H1319 and H1320 per BTSKt. (1319 is a verb ; 1320 is a noun - @ Ps 50.13 it should be a noun.)

1319 : Original: בּשׂר - Transliteration: Basar - Phonetic: baw-sar'
1320 : Original: בּשׂר - Transliteration: Basar - Phonetic: baw-sawr'
Check what Word Click settings you have. Looks like you could have Lemma, last in the list? Don't you need that to be Strong's. Whatever the situation I think there is something wrong with the Lemma matching, appearing to ignore vowel pointing.
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JG wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:13 am Check what Word Click settings you have. Looks like you could have Lemma, last in the list? Don't you need that to be Strong's. Whatever the situation I think there is something wrong with the Lemma matching, appearing to ignore vowel pointing.
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Move Strong's to the bottom. Word click will sync on the underlying Strong's number.
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JG wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:48 am Move Strong's to the bottom. Word click will sync on the underlying Strong's number.
Thanks. That seems to work.
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BIB english translation word order Eph 2:15

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BIB Interlinear has word order problem in Eph 2:15 English translation

Coz their website text is fine. https://biblehub.com/bib/ephesians/2.htm

15ἐν (in) τῇ (the) σαρκὶ (flesh) αὐτοῦ (of Him), τὸν (the) νόμον (law) τῶν (-) ἐντολῶν (of commandments) ἐν (in) δόγμασιν (ordinances) καταργήσας (having annulled), ἵνα (so that) τοὺς (the) δύο (two) κτίσῃ (He might create) ἐν (in) αὑτῷ (Himself) εἰς (into) ἕνα (one) καινὸν (new) ἄνθρωπον (man), ποιῶν (making) εἰρήνην (peace);

but the module text lagging one word, and missing the last two words.
ἐν τῇ in σαρκὶ, of Him, αὐτοῦ, having annulled, τὸν the νόμον flesh τῶν the ἐντολῶν law ἐν - δόγμασιν of commandments καταργήσας ἵνα in τοὺς, man, δύο into κτίσῃ ordinances ἐν so that αὑτῷ He might create εἰς new ἕνα in καινὸν Himself ἄνθρωπον one ποιῶν the εἰρήνην two

I dont wanna make a new topic. Kindly fix this.
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Biblehub unfortunately is not the source of the Berean Study Bible. So this may be an adjustment/fix they made Biblehub made. We need to stick with the original from the publisher. Do you see similar information here? https://berean.bible/downloads.htm

If you can verify this then we can look into contacting the publisher. Unfortunately we just don't have the time to chase down all these corrections. That would be a great help. The information may be in free downloads.
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Jonathan,

I don't care about the correction on this verse, but I just upgraded the new BIB module and the default setting on it is "with transliteration", it was not like that. Now it messes up with the Apostolic interlinear ABP coz I used to press R to fix the ugly orange colour English to maroon, which you did for me. The BIB is not in harmony with that setting. Now in the book window for the mouse hover popup view, I have ABP and BIB together, so it will either show the annoying unnecessary transliteration in BIB; Or the ugly orange English in ABP. It is so annoying. I wish i hadn't updated. There should be an option to go back to the previous version.

Can you just fix the ugly ABP font colour by default and make it maroon, without needing to press R? It will be so great.

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